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joseph ratzinger went into the conclave leading, pope paul vi as well, and people were talking about him. that doesn't seem to historically be true. >> it's cute and gets us off the hook for these wild predictions that don't turn out to be true. but he's absolutely right. if you look at the conclaves of the 20th century, half the times the guy who was identified as the front-runner actually got elected. the problem, anderson, this time, there is no front-runner. >> that's what makes it so interesting this time, i think. >> i think it says more to if you enter pope, if you talk about yourself as pope, if you seem to be politicizing it or politicking yourself, it's seen as a negative. if you do that, it's like the kiss of death, as far as they're concerned. >> yet it's interesting, you see cardinal dolan literally kissing babies and getting a huge amount of attention. is that viewed negatively? >> i don't think so for him, because it seemed like this big personality that even before there was talk of him as pope, that's just who the guy is. he doesn't restrain it. i was at the church y
joseph ratzinger went into the conclave leading, pope paul vi as well, and people were talking about him. that doesn't seem to historically be true. >> it's cute and gets us off the hook for these wild predictions that don't turn out to be true. but he's absolutely right. if you look at the conclaves of the 20th century, half the times the guy who was identified as the front-runner actually got elected. the problem, anderson, this time, there is no front-runner. >> that's what makes...
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. >> reporter: just under eight years ago he stepped out on the balcony joseph ratzinger chosen to succeed john paul ii who reigned as pope for 25 years. >> he had a hard act to follow. >> a very difficult act. >> reporter: father james marten is editor at large of the magazine "america". >> he is the beloved professor. >> reporter: benedict was a shy man with a great reputation in the church. a theologian a strong advocate for a return to tradition in the face of the modern world. but these were hard years for the catholic church and the pope. there was the agony of the sex abuse scandal in several countries. timothy dolan reflected on the toll of it all. >> when he speaks about the church, when he speaks about christian life they are the most noble, loving, the most elevated sentiments you can have. and for him to see the troubles, the corruption, the scandals that have always inflicted members of the church that's got to weigh on him. >> reporter: another scandal, his personal butler stole a trove of his private correspondence and leaked it to the media. >> he was an incredible shepherd
. >> reporter: just under eight years ago he stepped out on the balcony joseph ratzinger chosen to succeed john paul ii who reigned as pope for 25 years. >> he had a hard act to follow. >> a very difficult act. >> reporter: father james marten is editor at large of the magazine "america". >> he is the beloved professor. >> reporter: benedict was a shy man with a great reputation in the church. a theologian a strong advocate for a return to tradition...
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ratzinger pasaron los de la maÑana y despuÉs en el primero de la tarde resultÓ electo y tambiÉn un detalle histÓrico es la primera vez que un pontÍfice que un papa em rito estarÁ viendo por televisiÓn la eleccion. >>> y rogelio gracias y mientras millones de feligreses se congregaban para orar y pedir por el papa vender muchos se preguntan como un pontÍfice electo escoge su nombre para lidiar esta iglesia catÓlica, vanesa nos cuenta desde aquÍ, desde el vaticano. >>> serÁ la primera pregunta que el cardenal decano le harÁ al nuevo pa paun vez haya aceptado ser el sucesor de pedro. >>> le preguntan con quÉ nombre quiere ser llamado. >>> fue elegido papa al final del siglo sexto no le pareciÓ adecuado colocar en la sede de pedro como papa una persona con un nombre de un dios pagano. >>> y entonces se cambiÓ el nombre. >>> y se llamÓ juan segundo. >>> muchos eligen nombres de santos, otros prefieren nombres de ante ese es sores entonces van aumentando los nÚmeros. >>> benedicto xvi sin embargo eligiÓ el nombre inspirandose por un padre de la san benito al cual aprecia mucho. >>
ratzinger pasaron los de la maÑana y despuÉs en el primero de la tarde resultÓ electo y tambiÉn un detalle histÓrico es la primera vez que un pontÍfice que un papa em rito estarÁ viendo por televisiÓn la eleccion. >>> y rogelio gracias y mientras millones de feligreses se congregaban para orar y pedir por el papa vender muchos se preguntan como un pontÍfice electo escoge su nombre para lidiar esta iglesia catÓlica, vanesa nos cuenta desde aquÍ, desde el vaticano....
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this may last longer than it took to pick joseph ratzinger. they may need the time. >> they have to pick the right person, and they have to take into account the sexual abuse that's gone on and make sure the next pope is a better ambassador than perhaps pope benedict was, right? young and vibrant and able to connect with young catholics. >> absolutely. and we know this. we know he's one of the men in the room, right? one of the 115 cardinals. he doesn't have to be. could have to pick somebody to be over 80 years of age and not a cardinal at all. in all reality, it will be one of the younger cardinals who is won of the election fors and some suggest a pope alone may not be enough. when you have a new pope, you have a new vatican council. things that need to be changed are of such dimension, proportion, impact on the church it will take a referendum, and one of the frustrations, satellite communications aside, it's hard to report when all of the guys know what's going on are your honor secrecy under threat of excommunication. >> hard to break a
this may last longer than it took to pick joseph ratzinger. they may need the time. >> they have to pick the right person, and they have to take into account the sexual abuse that's gone on and make sure the next pope is a better ambassador than perhaps pope benedict was, right? young and vibrant and able to connect with young catholics. >> absolutely. and we know this. we know he's one of the men in the room, right? one of the 115 cardinals. he doesn't have to be. could have to...
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the former cardinal joseph ratzinger was touched by the charges of child abuse in the catholic church. bill: what happens next on the dates that are aren't? >> reporter: he's leaving february 28, 8:00 p.m. local time in rome. that leaves that very important vacancy and sets up a conclave of cardinals. vatican says by mid-march at the latest. vatican says we should have a new pope by esther sunday march 31. pope benedict will not take part in the conclave. usually a conclave happens after a pope dies. 1415 was the last time a pope quit in office. who is the next pope? he could come from developing areas of the world. it guarantees a lot of drama and a lot of black or white smoke coming from the roof is sistine chapel. march report concerns about the pope's health surfaced this past christmas eve. have it can watchers say he looked frail as he delivered the midnight mass. here he is riding in a motorized cart. the mass is moved up two hours to give the pope time to rest for the christmas day speech. he took the opportunity to urge peace in the middle east during the holidays and was loo
the former cardinal joseph ratzinger was touched by the charges of child abuse in the catholic church. bill: what happens next on the dates that are aren't? >> reporter: he's leaving february 28, 8:00 p.m. local time in rome. that leaves that very important vacancy and sets up a conclave of cardinals. vatican says by mid-march at the latest. vatican says we should have a new pope by esther sunday march 31. pope benedict will not take part in the conclave. usually a conclave happens after...
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pope benedict was elected in 2005, formally known as cardinal joseph ratzinger. the vatican will be able to elect a new pope by march because they do not have to observe the traditional mourning time that follows the death of a pope. this is breaking news, just happening, i have reached out to the spokesman for the diocese in san francisco to get a reaction. i have not heard. we will keep trying. stay with us throughout the broadcast. reporting live if san francisco for abc7 news. >> no doubt there will be strock reaction. stay with abc7 for continuing coverage on the resignation of pope benedict xvi, breaking news from overnight with the newest information at abc7 abc7news.co. we will tweet immediate updates on twitter. >> now out the door with a check on the weather forecast. >> any changes from yesterday? >> a few changes. it is cooler this morning. the frost is possible again. here is the radar and the sat light, live doppler 7 hd showing you how dry it is. we will take a look at the temperatures. you will be able to see we are running above frosty levels in
pope benedict was elected in 2005, formally known as cardinal joseph ratzinger. the vatican will be able to elect a new pope by march because they do not have to observe the traditional mourning time that follows the death of a pope. this is breaking news, just happening, i have reached out to the spokesman for the diocese in san francisco to get a reaction. i have not heard. we will keep trying. stay with us throughout the broadcast. reporting live if san francisco for abc7 news. >> no...
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. >> reporter: in 2005 bergoglio was runner-up behind joseph ratzinger to replace the late pope john paul ii. he's regarded as a strong defender of catholic doctrine, described by his biographer as a balancing force, he earned a reputation in argentina as a fierce advocate for the poor. >> this is a man of god, a man of the new evangelization. a man who is a great defender of democracy in a country where democracy is under real stress right now in argentina. >> reporter: tonight, choosing to become pope francis, he takes the name of 13th century preacher saint francis assisi who lived a life of poverty. no surprise to those who know him. >> you can see the humility of the man. you can see the calm of the man. i can tell you, i know the strength of the man and the compassion of the man. >> reporter: his election sparked excitement in latin america both out of cultural pride and the recognition of the growing importance and influence of that part of the world. >> bergoglio brings latin america to rome and to the world. >> reporter: his papacy is expected to reflect his sense of strong
. >> reporter: in 2005 bergoglio was runner-up behind joseph ratzinger to replace the late pope john paul ii. he's regarded as a strong defender of catholic doctrine, described by his biographer as a balancing force, he earned a reputation in argentina as a fierce advocate for the poor. >> this is a man of god, a man of the new evangelization. a man who is a great defender of democracy in a country where democracy is under real stress right now in argentina. >> reporter:...
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>> because he's along the line of joseph ratzinger. he thinks much like the president pope does. he's not as a lucid writer and speaker as the present pope, as benedict xvi was. he's been the head of two major italian diocese in venice and milan. >> just to be clear, again, i asked both george and father to give us the names of the people not necessarily who they think are front-runners but who they are hearing buzz about and i was surprised, father gahl, you put cardinal timothy dolan. i'm not surprised he's buzzed about here in the states but is there talk about him in the vatican? >> there's definitely talk about him in the vatican. historically also profound while at the same time being filled with cheerfulness, optimism about the faith. this is a part of the legacy of pope benedict, that he's left this legacy of the joy that all of us as christians could have. and i think cardinal dolan fills every room that he entered with joy. >> born in argentina to italian parents, i guess he pushes two geographic buttons. what else? >> i once asked cardinal sandri, do you think of yours
>> because he's along the line of joseph ratzinger. he thinks much like the president pope does. he's not as a lucid writer and speaker as the present pope, as benedict xvi was. he's been the head of two major italian diocese in venice and milan. >> just to be clear, again, i asked both george and father to give us the names of the people not necessarily who they think are front-runners but who they are hearing buzz about and i was surprised, father gahl, you put cardinal timothy...
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but there was no doubt when they went into that conclave that joseph ratzinger was a front-runner. and we don't have that this time, george, do we? >> no, that's right, chris, no papal funeral. no mourning before a papal funeral. an unprecedented historical situation, and not only no front-runner, but no front row at daytona here. this is a much more wide-open process. as we watch cardinal giovanni batista ray say a prayer that concludes the singing of the ancient hymn "come holy spirit." >> and george, you pointed out, this is cardinal ray, who is right now as we see in front of the microphone there. the important part, george, that comes down to when they go to cast their first ballots, explain why the cardinals will try to disguise their handwriting? >> well, there is a bit of confidentiality involved in this. they're asked to write legibly, but in a way that is not clearly their own. this is a rather complicated instruction. they'll individually walk up to that urn in which the ballots are cast. and say, "i call to witness christ the lord, who will be my judge. that he for whom
but there was no doubt when they went into that conclave that joseph ratzinger was a front-runner. and we don't have that this time, george, do we? >> no, that's right, chris, no papal funeral. no mourning before a papal funeral. an unprecedented historical situation, and not only no front-runner, but no front row at daytona here. this is a much more wide-open process. as we watch cardinal giovanni batista ray say a prayer that concludes the singing of the ancient hymn "come holy...
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. >> reporter: in 2005, bergoglio was runner-up behind joseph ratzinger to replace the late pope john paul ii. he is regarded as a strong defender of catholic doctrine, described by his biographer as a balancing force. he earned a reputation in argentina as a fierce advocate for the poor. >> this is a man of god, a man of the new evangelization, a man who is a great defender of democracy in a country where democracy is under real stress right now in argentina. >> reporter: his election has sparked excitement in latin america, both out of cultural pride and the recognition of the growing importance and influence of that part of the world. >> bergoglio brings latin america to rome and to the world. >> well, the man chosen to lead the roman catholic church has a busy first day. he's set to meet with his predecessor, the former pope benedict this morning, and then celebrate mass this afternoon. nbc's claudio la vantagea is at the vatican this morning. claudio, good morning. what's the mood like where you are? >> reporter: well, mara, cardinal bergoglio has only been pope for a few hours,
. >> reporter: in 2005, bergoglio was runner-up behind joseph ratzinger to replace the late pope john paul ii. he is regarded as a strong defender of catholic doctrine, described by his biographer as a balancing force. he earned a reputation in argentina as a fierce advocate for the poor. >> this is a man of god, a man of the new evangelization, a man who is a great defender of democracy in a country where democracy is under real stress right now in argentina. >> reporter: his...
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>> mara, angelo skoal la will bring continuity to the papacy of joseph ratzinger, pope deny dict xvi. so not much will change while the other two american cardinals who till a few weeks ago didn't stand a chance have suddenly become the front-runners of the so-called reformers, those that want to bring a breath of fesh repair into the vatican walls and to break the italian lock on that roman courier that was so much criticized by cardinals from around the world. scola is believed to have gotten the most votes last night. but the runners up are the american cardinal. we'll know soon enough in the next few days whether we do have the first american cardinal in history. >> what are the cardinals looking for? what direction do they want to take the church in? do we have any indications as to what those things might be? >> well, while the cardinals are divided, they seem to agree on one thing. they want a holy man who is also a businessman because while benedict xvi was appreciated as a great spiritual leader, he was criticized for not having had a strong hand on the administrative side of
>> mara, angelo skoal la will bring continuity to the papacy of joseph ratzinger, pope deny dict xvi. so not much will change while the other two american cardinals who till a few weeks ago didn't stand a chance have suddenly become the front-runners of the so-called reformers, those that want to bring a breath of fesh repair into the vatican walls and to break the italian lock on that roman courier that was so much criticized by cardinals from around the world. scola is believed to have...
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eight years ago cardinal joseph ratzinger was the front-runner. this year, there is no clear concession on a front-runner. they're hoping to energize the church's 1.2 catholics. their favorite appears to be odilo pedro scherer. also angelo scola is a favorite. american cardinals, timothy dolan of new york and cardinal sean patrick o'malley of boston also appear to be in the mix. >>> president obama is expecting to ramp up a charm offensive traveling to capitol hill to attend each party's weekly meetings. the recent steps in reaching out including dining with top senators could go a long way in reaching a budget deal but that they would not have changed the political impact the country is in today. >> i'm welcoming with open arms. i think the president is tremendously sincere. i don't think this is a poe will the call change in tactics. i think he would like to solve the problems of the country and it would be to his benefit and every american's benefit if he did that. it's time to start leading. the way you do that is quit poking your finger in pe
eight years ago cardinal joseph ratzinger was the front-runner. this year, there is no clear concession on a front-runner. they're hoping to energize the church's 1.2 catholics. their favorite appears to be odilo pedro scherer. also angelo scola is a favorite. american cardinals, timothy dolan of new york and cardinal sean patrick o'malley of boston also appear to be in the mix. >>> president obama is expecting to ramp up a charm offensive traveling to capitol hill to attend each...
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. >> reporter: now, born joseph ratzinger the german became pope in april 2005 when the cardinals elected him to succeed pope john paul ii. this decision means that the catholic church will be without a pope for a period of time until the cardinals can select a new successor. live in san francisco, cate caugiran, kpix 5. >>> a manhunt continues in southern california for the ex- lapd officer they say has already killed three people. a reported sighting in northridge was a false alarm. it's now been eight days since police say christopher dorner killed his first two victims. lapd was on high alert for the grammys. los angeles officials announced a $1 million reward and it cops as the search for the former officer winds down in the mountains east of l.a. meantime, l.a.'s police chief has reopened an investigation into the circumstances of dorner's firing. >> if he was to give himself up, we would be glad to listen to what he has to say. >> dorner claims he was fired for reporting a fellow officer for excessive force. the last clue investigators have of dorner's whereabouts was thursday when
. >> reporter: now, born joseph ratzinger the german became pope in april 2005 when the cardinals elected him to succeed pope john paul ii. this decision means that the catholic church will be without a pope for a period of time until the cardinals can select a new successor. live in san francisco, cate caugiran, kpix 5. >>> a manhunt continues in southern california for the ex- lapd officer they say has already killed three people. a reported sighting in northridge was a false...
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. >> reporter: as a cardinal, joseph ratzinger was known as john paul ii's enforcer of religious doctrine. he did not like answering questions. here's brian ross asking him about a sexual abuse case in 2002. >> come to me when the moment is given. but not yet. >> reporter: it is almost eight years as pope, he would sometimes play the piano. he always wore his red shoes. but his passion was preaching the gospel. he never enjoyed being an administrator and he paid a price for that. his papacy will be remembered for its scandals. those endless sexual abuse coverups that cost more thbilli. during a financial scandal, tried and failed to clean up corruption. and the vatileaks scandal. a vatican back-stabbing in intrigue. he may have been the first pope to tweet, but as the leader, he tried to hold back the forces, refusing to expand the role of women. now, though, he is accepting the reality of the modern world. and the catholic church enters new territory. can the church cope with having an ex-pope alive while a new pope tripes to create his own legacy? >> this is the tremendous question that
. >> reporter: as a cardinal, joseph ratzinger was known as john paul ii's enforcer of religious doctrine. he did not like answering questions. here's brian ross asking him about a sexual abuse case in 2002. >> come to me when the moment is given. but not yet. >> reporter: it is almost eight years as pope, he would sometimes play the piano. he always wore his red shoes. but his passion was preaching the gospel. he never enjoyed being an administrator and he paid a price for...
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so cardinal joseph ratzinger seemed an obvious choice. this time there is no such obvious front runner and no simple, single, overriding issue that's driving the reflection, which is why a lot of us believe this conclave may be a little bit more complex and it may take a little bit longer for the cardinals to reach consensus. >> all right. all right, john, let's come back here to new york for a second. melinda, let me ask you, when you're looking at this from the outside, other than the timing which you know i'm completely obsessed with, that's mainly because i have to figure out when i have to get to rome, but when we're looking at what might be different this time, that's the excitement, right? what are you looking at from the outside? what do you think the possibilities here are? and are we being too excited? >> in terms of the candidates or in terms of what we're going to see going forward? >> because pope benedict has created precedent here by saying i'm resigning, this is the best thing for the church, will that idea, what's best fo
so cardinal joseph ratzinger seemed an obvious choice. this time there is no such obvious front runner and no simple, single, overriding issue that's driving the reflection, which is why a lot of us believe this conclave may be a little bit more complex and it may take a little bit longer for the cardinals to reach consensus. >> all right. all right, john, let's come back here to new york for a second. melinda, let me ask you, when you're looking at this from the outside, other than the...
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cardinal joseph ratzinger was 78 when he was chosen in 2005. but he wasn't the oldest pope. in the 12th and 13th centuries, two donned their robes at the age of 85. the youngest, pope john xii was a youthful 18 when he assumed the papacy. he had help of his father who fixed the election of his only son before his death. only one man was not a cardinal first. he was named pope urban vi back in 1378. the italians have clearly had the home field advantage, dominating it through the centuries. the conclave of 1978, produced the closest thing to a surprise we had in decades, in john paul ii, the first nonitalian in 500 years. more often than not, the outcome is predictable. without a clear front-runner going in this time, this conclave could be a cliff-hanger. that it for us from rome. "early start" begins now. >>> pope watch at the sistine chapel. a live picture right here, the world waiting for the signal with cardinals voting right now on a new pope. >>> a dramatic finish to an intense manhunt. police storm a motel room to catch a suspected killer. >>> sinkhole. >> this is cra
cardinal joseph ratzinger was 78 when he was chosen in 2005. but he wasn't the oldest pope. in the 12th and 13th centuries, two donned their robes at the age of 85. the youngest, pope john xii was a youthful 18 when he assumed the papacy. he had help of his father who fixed the election of his only son before his death. only one man was not a cardinal first. he was named pope urban vi back in 1378. the italians have clearly had the home field advantage, dominating it through the centuries. the...
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he lost to then cardinal joseph ratzinger who became benedict the xvith. this time around, well, did he a little better. pope francis is the first non-you're mean leader of the church in more than 1200 years according to vatican records. back in are argentina the then cardinal was a man who lived simply. i mentioned he cooked his own meals and read the bus to work. he didn't live in a fancy church mansion that was available. he slept downtown where a small stove kept him warm. he didn't own a car. difficult to imagine how much this world is about to change. team fox coverage continues. trace gallagher live tonight. >> because cardinal came in second during the last conclave, many theological historians thought he would be a major role player during this one but not as the king, rather as the king maker. instead, we have a pope unlike any other. [cheers] >> his parishioners knew him as jorge pope francis. the robes and pageantry presented to a prince of the church known for his simplicity in humble manner his constant journey to uphold the teachings of chri
he lost to then cardinal joseph ratzinger who became benedict the xvith. this time around, well, did he a little better. pope francis is the first non-you're mean leader of the church in more than 1200 years according to vatican records. back in are argentina the then cardinal was a man who lived simply. i mentioned he cooked his own meals and read the bus to work. he didn't live in a fancy church mansion that was available. he slept downtown where a small stove kept him warm. he didn't own a...
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>> we thought after john paul ii it would be a long conclave and they quickly elected joseph ratzinger. they might have one candidate that stands out and they finda anaise meeting. the election of john paul roim -- i overnight. he was prayerful and they picked him almost automatically and stame with pope john paul ii. you - pope benedict. i don't think we can tell at this point. >> monsingor, always good to see you and we'll pull for a longhornser or north american as you say. >> thank you, eric. >> libyans, thousands of therm marking the uprising that toppled gad gad. many are sporting flaggings on their cars and balloons and featuring the national colors. the new leader calling for unity in the nation. but the new libyan central government has little authority beyond the capitol of tripoli. the country is fractured. there are militia. >> explosion in baghdad this morning. 28 people were killed and dozens more wounded . here you can see burned out hulkings was -- buildings and cars. sunday is the beginning of the work day there. >> the national gun debate rages on and new quis of a po
>> we thought after john paul ii it would be a long conclave and they quickly elected joseph ratzinger. they might have one candidate that stands out and they finda anaise meeting. the election of john paul roim -- i overnight. he was prayerful and they picked him almost automatically and stame with pope john paul ii. you - pope benedict. i don't think we can tell at this point. >> monsingor, always good to see you and we'll pull for a longhornser or north american as you say....
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cardinal joseph ratzinger was elected in the fastest conclave. it came in day two of the conclave. back in 2005, black smoke came in at 6:52 and white smoke came in about six hours later at 12:50 p.m. joining me is george. we've had no pope. at what point is the pivot point for the voting that will take place behind the scenes today, the narrowing down, at least, of the candidates? >> they are certainly going to be narrowing down, thomas. that may have in fact began already. the first vote, as you know last night, is full of complementary votes that don't really give you an indication, that gives the cardinals an indication of where the lay of the land lies. but they ought to have some reasonable idea now after this morning two ballots who has real traction, if anyone, and one can imagine after lunch and the typical italian reposo who may not have taken a nap this afternoon that some of the coalitions are being readjusted and cardinals are thinking now as they reenter the sistine chapel. >> so you talk about those adjustments. if the conclave were to end quickly, after this next vo
cardinal joseph ratzinger was elected in the fastest conclave. it came in day two of the conclave. back in 2005, black smoke came in at 6:52 and white smoke came in about six hours later at 12:50 p.m. joining me is george. we've had no pope. at what point is the pivot point for the voting that will take place behind the scenes today, the narrowing down, at least, of the candidates? >> they are certainly going to be narrowing down, thomas. that may have in fact began already. the first...
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he is, before he was the pope, he joseph ratzinger, and a profe professor. that's what he wanted to do in retirement. they is a theologian in part, so it's not surprised in that regard. pope watched the church deal with that difficulty as well as the scandals that many felt that they were flat-footed in responding to. >> well, again they're going to be conclave after the 28th. we'll know for the new season of easter who the new pope will be. ann, thanks so much. >>> so another horrific incident of gun violence, this time in delaware. a man shot his wife and a new woman at the newcastle courthouse this morning. the suspect also wounded two police officers. the suspect killed by police. >>> here's a look at what else is topping the news. the lapd is over a record $1 million reward to find chris dorner. the lapd says they will reopened the investigation that led to his firing. he's wanted for a killing spree in revenge for his dismissal. >>> hundreds of school districts canceled classes in new york, connecticut and massachusetts. >>> more than a dozen people we
he is, before he was the pope, he joseph ratzinger, and a profe professor. that's what he wanted to do in retirement. they is a theologian in part, so it's not surprised in that regard. pope watched the church deal with that difficulty as well as the scandals that many felt that they were flat-footed in responding to. >> well, again they're going to be conclave after the 28th. we'll know for the new season of easter who the new pope will be. ann, thanks so much. >>> so another...
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for example, eight years ago cardinal joseph ratzinger entered the papacy with a very vong position against turkey's candidacy to enter european union. but as pope he upheld the vatican's official diplomatic line which is neutrality as long as human rights guarantees are upheld. we have to see if the level substance of how much the cardinal's then-positions are going to be picked up in terms of the policy positions he takes as pope. >> so the italian edition of the pope's book "to heal from corruption" is being released. it reflects ideas francis developed durg argentina's economic crisis in the 1990s. what did he do? can you elaborate? >> well, he began thinking about the issue of corruption and the economy and political life in the 1990s when argentina was going through an historic economic meltdown. basically he drew the conclusion that corruption was in some ways the worst kind of sin. his argument is that most sinners at least carry the hope for forgiveness because on some level they recognize they're doing something wrong, whereas people who were on the take who have been bought off f
for example, eight years ago cardinal joseph ratzinger entered the papacy with a very vong position against turkey's candidacy to enter european union. but as pope he upheld the vatican's official diplomatic line which is neutrality as long as human rights guarantees are upheld. we have to see if the level substance of how much the cardinal's then-positions are going to be picked up in terms of the policy positions he takes as pope. >> so the italian edition of the pope's book "to...
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one was the american cardinal and joseph ratzinger you may have heard of who became benedict xvi. this time you have 50 conclave veterans in the sistine chapel, and i think therefore will be more inclined to think they ought to have say in what's happening. >> and i believe some 67 who have been elevated to cardinal by benedict xvi. >> that's right. all 115 were appointed by john paul or benedict. >> so as catholics around the world look to the possible direction the church might take, and in america we know there's a big wing of the roman catholics who is looking for a more progressive, more modern catholic church, that addresses the real issues of living in today's 21st century world, other parts of the word are much more traditional, much more conservative model. how do you see it going forward and to you think there will be an american pope for the first time? >> an american pope is a long shot, but for the first time it's thinkable. in the old idea you couldn't have a super power pope because america is too powerful and if you put that guy in, half the world will think vatica
one was the american cardinal and joseph ratzinger you may have heard of who became benedict xvi. this time you have 50 conclave veterans in the sistine chapel, and i think therefore will be more inclined to think they ought to have say in what's happening. >> and i believe some 67 who have been elevated to cardinal by benedict xvi. >> that's right. all 115 were appointed by john paul or benedict. >> so as catholics around the world look to the possible direction the church...
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ratzinger who became pope benedict. having said that, his age, 76, made a lot of people disqualify him. because one of the reasons obviously that pope benedict stepped down was because of his age. he said he didn't have the energy anymore. and so i think there was a sort of understanding among a lot of people that maybe the cardinals of the conclave would go for someone who was younger and seemed, perhaps, as more vital. having said that, remember, the two things that i think people were looking for most were someone who could evangelize and someone who could clean up the bureaucracy of the vatican. certainly on the first one we've talked about his great evangeliization skills. thomas reese was right. we've seen growth in the church in africa and latin america. there's also competition from protestant evangiliization. it's going to be interesting to see what this man who lives so simply does inside the vatican. certainly father or george could speak better to this than i could. but what will happen now inside the walls
ratzinger who became pope benedict. having said that, his age, 76, made a lot of people disqualify him. because one of the reasons obviously that pope benedict stepped down was because of his age. he said he didn't have the energy anymore. and so i think there was a sort of understanding among a lot of people that maybe the cardinals of the conclave would go for someone who was younger and seemed, perhaps, as more vital. having said that, remember, the two things that i think people were...
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in 2005, there was a clear front-runner in cardinal joseph ratzinger, the man who had been john paul's right hand. this time, what you have is a much more wide open field and in fact, in one of the last press briefings we got, cardinal frances george of chicago said that right now, the list seems to be coming longer rather than shorter of potential popes. i think their corn concern is they don't want to have a protractive conclave once they go into the sistine chapel, so they want to give themselves as much time as they can to do the political heavy lifting so they don't end up stalled once they're behind those closed doors. >> thanks so much. vatican analyst joining us from roechl. >>> a family coming to grips with a tragic loss. we're going to have an exclusive interview with reeva steenkamp's uncle and cousin. >> they forgive the blade runner. medicated pain relief you store in the freezer. brrr...see ya boys. [ male announcer ] bengay zero degrees. freeze and move on. [ male announcer ] bengay zero degrees. we replaced people with a machine.r, what? customers didn't like it. so why
in 2005, there was a clear front-runner in cardinal joseph ratzinger, the man who had been john paul's right hand. this time, what you have is a much more wide open field and in fact, in one of the last press briefings we got, cardinal frances george of chicago said that right now, the list seems to be coming longer rather than shorter of potential popes. i think their corn concern is they don't want to have a protractive conclave once they go into the sistine chapel, so they want to give...
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born joseph ratzinger, he was an academic, planned to retire and write books. some criticize him as a cardinal for becoming too strict. for which he apologized. >> i express my deep sorrow to the innocent victims of this inspeakable crimes. >> reporter: during his eight years as pope, he has taken on major issues, speaking of environmental climate change, putting solar panels on the vatican. he will be pope until exactly 7:00 pm on the 28th of this month. he will eventually move into a residence in the vatican. the vatican is saying they hope to elect a new pope by the end of march before easter. according to church rules, this pope will not be able to vote for his successor because he is over the age of 80. natalie? >> michelle kosinski, following the breaking news for us. thank you. >>> los angeles police department is hoping that a $1 million reward will lead to new clues in the search for former cop christopher dorner, who is suspected of killing a police officer and a couple engaged to be married. in surveillance video obtained by nbc news, sources say dor
born joseph ratzinger, he was an academic, planned to retire and write books. some criticize him as a cardinal for becoming too strict. for which he apologized. >> i express my deep sorrow to the innocent victims of this inspeakable crimes. >> reporter: during his eight years as pope, he has taken on major issues, speaking of environmental climate change, putting solar panels on the vatican. he will be pope until exactly 7:00 pm on the 28th of this month. he will eventually move...
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ratzinger, who became benedict xvi. this time 15 have been through the process. they do know one other better than last time which makes this process more complicated. not only do they know one another quite well but a larger group of guys who are veterans who feel they know the lay of the land and inclined to be active players in the process. >> let's listen in now. next cardinal angelo scola, from milan, archbishop of milan. let's listen to him. [ speaking latin ] >> a field where there is no favorite, i have been saying to you all week, john, and you followed, i'm lonely as a reporter on the story because it's so hard to get information. what are the hard facts that make angelo scola someone who must be considered at the top or near the top of the list who could be pope? >> i think the first is those of us with background conversations of cardinals over last two weeks constantly hear his name. further i think there's universal agreement among people who sort of handicap this feel for a living but this hasn't taken sh
ratzinger, who became benedict xvi. this time 15 have been through the process. they do know one other better than last time which makes this process more complicated. not only do they know one another quite well but a larger group of guys who are veterans who feel they know the lay of the land and inclined to be active players in the process. >> let's listen in now. next cardinal angelo scola, from milan, archbishop of milan. let's listen to him. [ speaking latin ] >> a field where...
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. ♪ >>> we're back. 85-year-old pope benedict, the former joseph ratzinger, made history today when he left the vatican in a helicopter from rome to the papal summer home, castel gandolfo, for the first phase of his retirement. in his final tweet as pope he said, quote, thank you for your love and support. may you always experience the joy that comes from putting christ at the center of your lives. his departure ushers in a new era for the church and the more than 1 billion catholics worldwide, and soon more than 100 cardinals will meet in conclave to select a new pope and decide the future of the faith. george weigel is our nbc news vatican analyst, and tom roberts is managing editor of "the national catholic reporter" and author of "the emerging catholic church." george, you know, in american presidential politics, we always try to correct for the latest president. you know, we had truman who had too much of a kansas city problem, so we brought in mr. clean eisenhower. we had nixon and ford, so we brought in a guy who had never been involved in politics or been to washington, carter.
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they were very much in place under pope benedict xvi when he was cardinal joseph ratzinger. maybe it's time for someone outside of rome, who is not engrained in this culture, mabe it's time from someone from a developing nation, someone else to clean house. >> raymond, a former catholic friar in england spoke to christia christiane amanpour, and what he said, it really stuck with me. i wanted to play it for you. his name is mark dowd. >> homosexuality is the ticking time bomb in the catholic church. on the one hand, the church teaches that the condition of same-sex attraction is intrinsically disordered, those are ratzinger's own words from 1996, but we know about half if not all of people attracted to the seminaries are gay themselves. >> ratzinger is pope benedict. is this true? >> i think you have to step back for a second, erin. this is hardly a news flash. father donald cousins wrote about this 20 years ago. father andrew greely coined the phrase lavender mafia talking about a subculture within the catholic church. but barbie was quite right. this is focusing the electo
they were very much in place under pope benedict xvi when he was cardinal joseph ratzinger. maybe it's time for someone outside of rome, who is not engrained in this culture, mabe it's time from someone from a developing nation, someone else to clean house. >> raymond, a former catholic friar in england spoke to christia christiane amanpour, and what he said, it really stuck with me. i wanted to play it for you. his name is mark dowd. >> homosexuality is the ticking time bomb in the...
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ratzinger and that may indicate a certain amount of change. i just want to caution -- i think a lot of americans think -- when they think of reform and change they think we're going to have women priests. that was not a realistic expectation given the cardinals who were in there. i think what they mean by reform touched other issues, partly reorganization of the curia, its relationships with local bishops and, again, are we going to focus a little bitless maybe on the traditional latin mass and a little bit more on caring for the poor. >> ifill: so this is not a pope or a papacy we're going to see any kind of change when it comes to things like abortion or -- >> of course not. >> ifill: gay marriage. >> of course not. >> ifill: or adoption or any social issues that get us so worked up, especially in the united states? >> no, and these are not issues in the latin american church. when 50% of your people are living below the poverty line, shame on you if you're worried about other issues like that. you've got to be very hand on worried about fee
ratzinger and that may indicate a certain amount of change. i just want to caution -- i think a lot of americans think -- when they think of reform and change they think we're going to have women priests. that was not a realistic expectation given the cardinals who were in there. i think what they mean by reform touched other issues, partly reorganization of the curia, its relationships with local bishops and, again, are we going to focus a little bitless maybe on the traditional latin mass and...
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prior to becoming pope in 2005 then cardinal joseph ratzinger oversaw all abuse cases for the vatican. >>> the justice department arguing that socialite's jill kelly's lawsuit should be dismissed because there was no proof that privacy was violated. and her threats that ended up in the then cia director david petraeus. kelly and her husband filed a suit in june accusing the fbi of violating her privacy and accesses personal e-mails. >>> nine minutes past the hour. check on the weather. i don't see any there at all. >> look at that. >> tiny little stuff. >> we're talking about temperatures barely going up. either way, we're feeling that huge difference. there's no complaining anymore. it's really gorgeous out. it feels like fall, just a hint better. new york city, 74 is what we're shooting for today. towards d.c., 77. pittsburgh looking for 74. beautiful weather, the question is, will it last? it all depends what's going on in the southeast. kind of hard to picture this. notice all of the rain, i do mean all of the rain, ft. myers, 5.7 inches. this is the last several days. what we're
prior to becoming pope in 2005 then cardinal joseph ratzinger oversaw all abuse cases for the vatican. >>> the justice department arguing that socialite's jill kelly's lawsuit should be dismissed because there was no proof that privacy was violated. and her threats that ended up in the then cia director david petraeus. kelly and her husband filed a suit in june accusing the fbi of violating her privacy and accesses personal e-mails. >>> nine minutes past the hour. check on the...
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ratzinger, now pope benedict xvi emeritus. as the perfect compromise candidate, 76 years old, but that he could be a unifier, your thoughts? >> well, i mean cardinal b bergoglio was a runner up in 2005. he comes from a society of jesus, a religious order respected not only for its religious accomplishment but social activism. humble man. when he was installed as the cardinal in beau nas air ris, he was not going to take the chauffeured limousine but the bus to work. if you wanted to talk to the cardinal you got on that bus and could have an audience. >> cooks his own meals. >> stays in his own simple apartment. >> the problem, chris, is that on the heels of a pope who resigned citing age and exhaustion, i think it is going to be difficult for some of these 115 cardinals to see a 76-year-old man who has had his own struggles with fatigue, as the logical successor. >> and there is a little bit of speculation about his health, fair point. again, as we're thinking about if the big names don't deliver early on and they have to look
ratzinger, now pope benedict xvi emeritus. as the perfect compromise candidate, 76 years old, but that he could be a unifier, your thoughts? >> well, i mean cardinal b bergoglio was a runner up in 2005. he comes from a society of jesus, a religious order respected not only for its religious accomplishment but social activism. humble man. when he was installed as the cardinal in beau nas air ris, he was not going to take the chauffeured limousine but the bus to work. if you wanted to talk...
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joseph ratzinger, pope benedict xvi, coming out to the balcony, and perhaps saying the last public words we will ever hear from him. what did he say? he said, i love you. he said i feel your support. he said, thank you for being here. and then in a very simple way, maybe the last words we'll hear from him, he said, [speaking italian] he said good night, good evening. he turned around and walked in. one of the beautiful signs written there in italian, that i saw in the crowd said, it said, benedict, your humility has made you bigger. and that was humility. there is no more pope benedict xvi speaking to us from balconies or around the world. he is now living as a monk. jenna: father jonathan, even though i'm not able to see you here from washington, d.c., we're still taking in the sights of this square there. we can feel in your voice how moved you are by what has transpired over the last hour. just talk us through a little bit what you're feeling and the emotions that come to mind. >> well, maybe it's better that you don't see me in that, you know, all of us i think, who have known him, a
joseph ratzinger, pope benedict xvi, coming out to the balcony, and perhaps saying the last public words we will ever hear from him. what did he say? he said, i love you. he said i feel your support. he said, thank you for being here. and then in a very simple way, maybe the last words we'll hear from him, he said, [speaking italian] he said good night, good evening. he turned around and walked in. one of the beautiful signs written there in italian, that i saw in the crowd said, it said,...
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i think benedict, joseph ratzinger wanted to be pope last team. he planned to do it. he gave a mark anthony speech. we all heard it during the funeral, which we covered last time. it looks to me like basically he has a 67 voters, majority of voters, in the college of cardinals that he has appointed personally. i think they'll be watching who he wants. if he wants this fellow skoela, he is going to get him. >> it's not the ora of the papacy itself, and you, i think rightfully so, say that the decision could open up a period of soul-searching in the catholic church has, in fact, badly needed. >> right. that point about the most modern thing he did is a quote from michael sean winters, a very smart watcher and student of the catholic church. you know, i was listening to chris, and i think he has the politics broadly right, but this is kind of macciavelli versus the holy spirit here. >> which one? >> exactly. >> i don't represent the holy spirit. i just want to say those are the two views. because he is right. skola is the favorite going in, and the question is are all th
i think benedict, joseph ratzinger wanted to be pope last team. he planned to do it. he gave a mark anthony speech. we all heard it during the funeral, which we covered last time. it looks to me like basically he has a 67 voters, majority of voters, in the college of cardinals that he has appointed personally. i think they'll be watching who he wants. if he wants this fellow skoela, he is going to get him. >> it's not the ora of the papacy itself, and you, i think rightfully so, say that...
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>> i was going to say chris, when it came to the selection of cardinal joseph ratzinger eight years ago, his name was out there before the conclave began but nobody was predicting the universal -- basically how quickly he was able to wrap up the election as he did. every chance that we may see white smoke before we know it? >> reporter: i don't think we will see it today. i said if we see it today, i will fall off this balcony. having said that down the know what the dynamics are going to be inside this radio. but i think the betting money here is certainly on no sooner than friday. they are already talking about having installation mass on tuesday, which would be the feast of st. joseph. if you look at the last nine conclaves, if history is any guide, they go just a little more than three days, but i think what's really different, and you know this, chuck, from the last time, is that it had been decades of a papacy and so a lot of these cardinal also known each other for a long time this time, more than half of them, this is their first conclave. so, there is a sense that no one has ri
>> i was going to say chris, when it came to the selection of cardinal joseph ratzinger eight years ago, his name was out there before the conclave began but nobody was predicting the universal -- basically how quickly he was able to wrap up the election as he did. every chance that we may see white smoke before we know it? >> reporter: i don't think we will see it today. i said if we see it today, i will fall off this balcony. having said that down the know what the dynamics are...
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you know, with the last election, we all knew joseph ratzinger and so did they, but there's nobody like that now, and with the scandals that are there, the first thing they have to do is make absolutely sure in every way that whomever they pick is spotless. >> exactly. >> and they don't know how to do that. they don't know how. i mean what are they going to do, call the head of the knights of columbus? they don't know how to do it. >> to me it's one of the most crucial moments in the church's history right now if you look at what happened with this huge scandal with pedophiles in the church. it's gone through every diocese and you're stacked with catholics. i'm catholic, i was an altar boy. i went to catholic university. all of that. i think we're at that moment in time where they have to make a decision, actually similar to the republican party in the same exact thing, they could either retrench and become a minority institution or they can expand. youth are leaving the church. minorities in the developed world are leaving church. there's no role -- women don't feel a real role in the
you know, with the last election, we all knew joseph ratzinger and so did they, but there's nobody like that now, and with the scandals that are there, the first thing they have to do is make absolutely sure in every way that whomever they pick is spotless. >> exactly. >> and they don't know how to do that. they don't know how. i mean what are they going to do, call the head of the knights of columbus? they don't know how to do it. >> to me it's one of the most crucial moments...